tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post114741397762946999..comments2024-03-24T16:46:26.733+05:30Comments on Indian Temples & Iconography: Definition of goodness in the MahabharataKavitha Kalyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00813712305535152213noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-4467014446296597132013-09-22T01:35:06.585+05:302013-09-22T01:35:06.585+05:30Нi there! Thiѕ artiсle cοuldn't be wrіtten muc...Нi there! Thiѕ artiсle cοuldn't be wrіtten much bеtter!<br />Looking at thіѕ pοѕt reminds me of my рrevious roommatе!<br /><br />He conѕtаntly kept preаching about this.<br />I most certaіnly wіll forward thіѕ articlе <br />to him. Fаirly cеrtain he will have a great read.<br /><br />І appreciаte you for sharing!<br /><br />Here іs my ѕite ... cif (<a href="http://www.sosdroits.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-81495801435314504252008-06-03T10:18:00.000+05:302008-06-03T10:18:00.000+05:30No doubt,karna is noblest person,yet he deserved t...No doubt,karna is noblest person,yet he deserved the end for being with dhuryodhana.<BR/>as kurukshetra fought based on 'dharma vs adharma'<BR/><BR/>Karna knows the wicked wax house plan of Dhuryodhan to kill pandavas ,yet karna did nt stop him, he tied to his friendship<BR/><BR/>he did nt stop vastraharana of draupadi,calling her 'vesi' justying that even if she brought as nude to court hall,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-17438138812613821852008-06-03T09:58:00.000+05:302008-06-03T09:58:00.000+05:30though yudistra is not potrayed as big warfare, he...though yudistra is not potrayed as big warfare, he symbolises dharma<BR/><BR/>1)asking bheema to keep quiet when comes to know duryodhan poisoned him<BR/><BR/>2)accepted kandavaprastha a waste land in order to maintain peace<BR/><BR/>3)he was pushed to play game of dice, as it is duty of kshatriya to accept war and dice challenge,<BR/><BR/>but for this he spend 13 years in forest,that is big Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-31991541441368380772008-06-03T09:41:00.000+05:302008-06-03T09:41:00.000+05:30there is no point in justying acts of duryodhana e...there is no point in justying acts of duryodhana except accepting karna as his friendship (if karna was not great archer,it is doubt that whether duryodhan would have accept him)<BR/><BR/>1) he tried to poison bheema <BR/>2) he planned to kill pandavas by making them to stay in wax house<BR/>whether those things are brave ?<BR/>3) he made his father to give 'kandavaprastha' hard and waste land toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1159624516855612992006-09-30T19:25:00.000+05:302006-09-30T19:25:00.000+05:30Amazing post. I've been a fan of Duryodhana too fo...Amazing post. I've been a fan of Duryodhana too for long. The honesty in hatred, the balls to be politically incorrect, the gumption to throw the caste system out and recognize merit and ofcourse the eternal will to brave against destiny make him a true hero, albeit very different from the stereotypical hero. You can see his shades in the Angry Young Man movies of Amitabh. So real, so gray and soSambahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12320424734356751935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1158937374330318092006-09-22T20:32:00.000+05:302006-09-22T20:32:00.000+05:30Namasthe Kavitha: Nobody is GOOD and nobody is BA...Namasthe Kavitha: <B>Nobody is GOOD and nobody is BAD in Mahabharta.</B> <BR/><BR/>It is strictly a book to educate masses all about ethics and morality as well as in spirituality. In fact, epic Mahabharta was written by Veda Vyasa, since Sage Narada pleaded him to do that. Narada told Veda Vyasa that ordinary people cannot comprehend all other scriptures he has written. So he has to write Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1158937314182393032006-09-22T20:31:00.000+05:302006-09-22T20:31:00.000+05:30Namasthe Kavitha: Nobody is GOOD and nobody is BA...Namasthe Kavitha: <B>Nobody is GOOD and nobody is BAD in Mahabharta.</B> <BR/><BR/>It is strictly a book to educate masses all about ethics and morality as well as in spirituality. In fact, epic Mahabharta was written by Veda Vyasa, since Sage Narada pleaded him to do that. Narada told Veda Vyasa that ordinary people cannot comprehend all other scriptures he has written. So he has to write Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1150555228746979312006-06-17T20:10:00.000+05:302006-06-17T20:10:00.000+05:30Namaste Kavita, You raised a important and releva...Namaste Kavita,<BR/> You raised a important and relevant question which is going to remain not just in present times but also for future generation. Your opinion seems to be based on a 'laukik' or materialistic outlook. As a passenger of this world we need to evaluate 'all things' based on spiritual reality. Perspective needs to be clear and closest to 'GOD' for judging goodness or truth, and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147930978219862652006-05-18T11:12:00.000+05:302006-05-18T11:12:00.000+05:30Hi sambhar42, and others,Hindu Philosophy’s fundam...Hi sambhar42, and others,<BR/><BR/>Hindu Philosophy’s fundamental belief about humans - the most evolved animal life on earth - is, ‘Man is a model of the universe’, via the Solar system, the most evolved Heavenly Bodies…And, today one knows that the microcosm functionally behaves just as the macrocosm (But the present day scientists are yet to reach the correlatin between the two). In Gita Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147925562239359092006-05-18T09:42:00.000+05:302006-05-18T09:42:00.000+05:30Someone made a remark about Ramayana being about w...Someone made a remark about Ramayana being about what we should be like. I somehow can't quite agree. I would rather know someone like Draupadi than someone like Sita. Draupadi has character and fire :-)<BR/>Rama makes his wife walk through fire to prove her purity which was beyond reproach anyway. The very question should not have risen (indeed, no one raised it) and if it had, Rama must have sambar42https://www.blogger.com/profile/09826485107237700098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147915176113008312006-05-18T06:49:00.000+05:302006-05-18T06:49:00.000+05:30Hi all,I would add that there cannot be any dounbt...Hi all,<BR/><BR/>I would add that there cannot be any dounbt that in order to explain matter related to ‘science subjects’ to the layman, the ancients used symbols. For example, earth’s destructive force in the form of a volcano is depicted through ‘Ma Kali’ – a black fearful black bodied woman with tongue painted red, a human skull garland around the neck, and so on…<BR/> <BR/>Similarly, the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147871423164869652006-05-17T18:40:00.000+05:302006-05-17T18:40:00.000+05:30Hi Kavitha, Felix, Anonynous, and all...‘Karna’ ha...Hi Kavitha, Felix, Anonynous, and all...<BR/><BR/>‘Karna’ has evoked a good ‘chakravyuha-like’ response from Vikram, Priya, Bhavik, Sachin and Sishir of the yahoo groups, thoughts which I believe have been repeated for long, and which perhaps help move one ‘outwards’ - away from the fundamental thought of ‘Maya’ or “Jagat mithya” of ‘Hindu Philosophy’, i.e., the illusion or apparent ‘Truths of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147866718516135192006-05-17T17:21:00.000+05:302006-05-17T17:21:00.000+05:30The mahabharata stands for everything that we shou...The mahabharata stands for everything that we should not be and should not do. <BR/><BR/>while the ramayana is for what we should be and we should do. <BR/><BR/>people in both epics had to give up (won't use the word "sacrifice") certain values, possessions, etc., for the greater common good. <BR/><BR/>yes, there is that thing. it does exist. the greater common good. <BR/><BR/>so well, if people Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147864441045050832006-05-17T16:44:00.000+05:302006-05-17T16:44:00.000+05:30Hi all,Very interesting the turn of events are.As ...Hi all,<BR/>Very interesting the turn of events are.<BR/><BR/>As for the simple questions posed by K are pretty much what debates our very existence. And would explain or rather describe a being as such.<BR/><BR/>The answers I believe lie in one person and yes it being yourself. Because all aren't given with the same sights on any given object. Similar, but not the same. As for society/family it Third Eye Closedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05432291604809132601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147856830245170342006-05-17T14:37:00.000+05:302006-05-17T14:37:00.000+05:30HiSuperbly crafted argument kavitha !!Even I agree...Hi<BR/><BR/>Superbly crafted argument kavitha !!<BR/>Even I agree with you when u say<BR/>" Karna was the best son of them all! "<BR/><BR/>Theres a novel in Marathi by the name "RADHEY"...A very good book<BR/>that really Defends Karna....<BR/><BR/>I dont really call Karna's behavior in Dyutsabha as Immoral... Given<BR/>the fact<BR/>that Draupadi Insulted karna many times hinting at his lower Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147856774500332682006-05-17T14:36:00.000+05:302006-05-17T14:36:00.000+05:30This is exactly what makes Mahabharata a far great...This is exactly what makes Mahabharata a far greater epic than Ramayana. While Ramayana is all 'black and white', Mahabharata has all shades of grey as well... portraying life as it is. The reader needs to take his own lessons rather than a moral dose given by the author. No wonder it is said, "Vyasochhishtam Jagat Sarvam'.<BR/> <BR/>SachinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147856742403812132006-05-17T14:35:00.000+05:302006-05-17T14:35:00.000+05:30Interesting points but not a winner.There is a who...Interesting points but not a winner.<BR/>There is a whole lot of things that needs to be considered while reading the Mahabharatha.<BR/>Mahabharata is not a story, its not just a bedtime narration. It is the complete essence of life.<BR/>We are actually inspired to talk the way our elders have told these stories to us. If our so called elders say, Karna was a great person who was cheated always, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147856680026141012006-05-17T14:34:00.000+05:302006-05-17T14:34:00.000+05:30Hi everyone!Wow! that was an overwhelming response...Hi everyone!<BR/><BR/>Wow! that was an overwhelming response. There is one common undercurrent. The definition of goodness in relation to being correct (politically correct). We cannot single out Karna for his mistakes. Everyone made mistakes and everyone has behaved very "human" in the Mahabharata, and not God like. <BR/><BR/>Now how do we define the pandavas as "good" and kauravas as "Bad".<BR/Kavitha Kalyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813712305535152213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147856511852836992006-05-17T14:31:00.001+05:302006-05-17T14:31:00.001+05:30HI Kavitha, I agree that Karna was a good person a...HI Kavitha,<BR/> <BR/>I agree that Karna was a good person and was kind at heart.. However lets not forget that Karna had himself opted to be with Duryodhan. He was loyal to Duryodhan, however because of this he was on the side of "Adharm" or "Astaya". Also let's not forget that Mahabharat was a battle of Dharma and Adharma. Hence Karna had to face the consequences of choice that he made.<BR/> <Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147856469855583492006-05-17T14:31:00.000+05:302006-05-17T14:31:00.000+05:30Dear Kavitha, I definately agree when you say Karn...Dear Kavitha,<BR/> <BR/>I definately agree when you say Karna was courageous and kind but how do you call him good? Goodness is not conditional. It should remain with person in the moments of crisis. Karna failed to show such goodness during "Draupadi Vastraharan" or when Kauravaas went to show off their power when Pandavas were in exile and various such occasions.<BR/> <BR/>There is a saying in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147856362625459432006-05-17T14:29:00.000+05:302006-05-17T14:29:00.000+05:30I have read your write up in your blog. It is impr...I have read your write up in your blog. It is impressive because you have reasoned out your thoughts very well.<BR/>However the harsh realities are sometimes hard to digest. Karna was no doubt an excellent personality. His rise and fall is his fate and is the best example to learn how even the best qualities can be of no use if you are not associated with the right people. This in simplicity Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147855149810462902006-05-17T14:09:00.000+05:302006-05-17T14:09:00.000+05:30Hi Vishesh, Your reaction reminds me that in the b...Hi Vishesh,<BR/> <BR/>Your reaction reminds me that in the book, ‘The Autobiography of a Yogi’ by Yogananda, the author cites the example of emotions generated by fiction or ‘untruth’ in cinema. It, however, could also apply to any ‘moving story’ in any print media or narrated verbally by a person even... <BR/><BR/>He says, to the effect, that although you are aware that you are watching Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147839465125357052006-05-17T09:47:00.000+05:302006-05-17T09:47:00.000+05:30this is like performance reviews in corporate firm...this is like performance reviews in corporate firms.<BR/><BR/>what you have improved upon will be negated by all the things you did not do, so either way, you are screwed.<BR/><BR/>karna as you have said, discarded by his mother, family, ended up getting screwed by his boss, the good lord himself.<BR/><BR/>he was a trusted friend, supported his friends even in war, skilled he was, but why did theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147783586400069682006-05-16T18:16:00.000+05:302006-05-16T18:16:00.000+05:30Hi Kavitha, i would try to answer your queries in ...Hi Kavitha, i would try to answer your queries in the following general statement.<BR/><BR/>Maybe one would need to go to the ‘cave age’ to understand human behavior… Living in close knit families and societies gave to the early man, who found itself in small numbers, a sense of security against the various other predators in the animal world and other vagaries of nature… With change in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999700.post-1147764923220852382006-05-16T13:05:00.000+05:302006-05-16T13:05:00.000+05:30your response is a posy by itself Kavitha, very wi...your response is a posy by itself Kavitha, very wide-ranging and equally soul-searching. But what made you pick just these 15 queries? They are really interesting and very contemporary. Congrats on your ability to zero down!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com